tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8994777194471059185.post7842468287341020994..comments2023-07-07T03:55:40.213-05:00Comments on Bull Bear Sock: Carmelo to Bulls? ... Confessions of a "Melo Lover"2jhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00652176496951098823noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8994777194471059185.post-13146811684830525792010-09-09T17:16:42.635-05:002010-09-09T17:16:42.635-05:00Don't go tugging at my heart strings and throw...Don't go tugging at my heart strings and throw Luis Scola's name around...especially after his game against Brazil. <br /><br />I think Scola signed a new deal anyways: http://shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/rockets.jsp<br /><br />The guys who runs this site (@shamsports) just threw out the Melo/Lawson for Deng/Rose hypothetical. Hypothetical....but interesting. Taking off my Rose colored glasses for a second it doesn't seem like that terrible of a deal.DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01849852478235600602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8994777194471059185.post-70048006341170988942010-09-09T16:05:15.834-05:002010-09-09T16:05:15.834-05:00I agree that Noah in no way cant be included in th...I agree that Noah in no way cant be included in this deal and i understand that Melo isnt a good defensive player. But thats what everyone said before ray allen went to boston after playing under Thibs, he is atleast an average defender. You can teach defense, you cant teach scoring like Melo.<br />Also, i understand that they may not be as good as the big 3 in miami but boston won it with 4 allstar players (garnett, pierce, allen, rando) and arguably so did the lakeshow (kobe, pau, odom, artest). I'd put rose, melo, noah and boozer up against anyone. oh and Melo's teams have won 50+ games the past 3 years. Do the trade!Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11548448745228593188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8994777194471059185.post-54750945874676921062010-09-09T15:05:13.431-05:002010-09-09T15:05:13.431-05:00I can't disagree that Melo is a HUGE upgrade o...I can't disagree that Melo is a HUGE upgrade offensively at the 3. ANd you're right ... Melo is a rare talent (at least as far as scoring), and solid-but-not-spectacular bigs are much more common.<br /><br /><br />But, I had to write that piece opposing the move to contrast the LeBron piece. And then I had to stick with it to counter Pete's point ...<br /><br />But now that it's out there, how can the Bulls not trade Deng's bad contract and a backup for Melo?! <br /><br />Here's 2 reasons: Noah and Rose's contract extensions. Not a lot of cap space after Boozer + Noah + Rose. And the deal would obviously be an extend-and-trade. So we'd be totally tied up with those 4, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.<br /><br /><br />I would NEVER, NEVER include Noah in a Melo deal. He is our backbone and our heart-and-soul. I think he's a very valuable piece on a potential title team, and he has to stay. However, what's the problem with trading Deng + Taj, then throwing a 2-year deal at Luis Scola?! He has yet to sign anywhere, and would be an awesome addition. I realize he has the talent to start (and will likely get a contract to match), but DC is right ... there are bigs out there that can replace (or improve) Taj's spot.2jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00652176496951098823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8994777194471059185.post-3023331590647724282010-09-09T14:43:16.998-05:002010-09-09T14:43:16.998-05:00Not sure how I feel entirely about this proposed m...Not sure how I feel entirely about this proposed move but I am going to take a pro-Melo slant for one big reason: Melo is a proven go-to scorer. The Bulls haven't had that in a long, long time. And we Bulls fans complain incessantly about not having that guy who can take over games. Is Rose there yet? If he is he hasn't shown it to us on a consistent basis. Rose is going to be great...Jim is probably the only person who loves Rose more than I do...but he's not there as a go-to scorer yet. The jumper is on the way but I still think he's a year maybe two away (unless he starts getting ref respect...that should add 5-6 ppg)<br /><br />I wouldn't in a million years include Noah in any deal for Melo. But upgrading scoring at the 3 over Deng and sacrificing a little bench depth is not too big of a price to pay.<br /><br />Deng + Taj aren't going to put us over the top against Miami and perhaps Melo won't either...but he's a big offensive upgrade to a team that has needed it for a decade. The bigger question is: Can the Bulls sign an extension? I assume that would be part of any trade, but obviously you don't trade for him if he isn't locked up.<br /><br />Are they Bulls better making a Melo for Deng/Taj deal...yes. I don't know how you say no. Depth is great, but if you're starting 5 improves you don't need the bench to contribute as much. I grew to love Taj but there are dozens of players like him in the league. He's not special...nor is he rare. The Bulls could have another Taj next year. When is another Melo walking through the door? Not nearly as often.<br /><br />Noah<br />Booz<br />Melo<br />Brewer<br />Rose<br /><br />That's one hell of a starting unit.<br /><br />And remember Omer Asik is killing it in FIBA....OMER COMIN'! (OK that part was sarcastic...but still)<br /><br />/rambling incoherent pro-Melo thoughtsDChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01849852478235600602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8994777194471059185.post-41685813657922603542010-09-09T14:15:38.697-05:002010-09-09T14:15:38.697-05:00Pete - totally disagree. Taj is an essential part...Pete - totally disagree. Taj is an essential part of our depth, likely our 6th man (or at least the first big off the bench). He was a very solid starter last year and will be part of our bench/depth that will separate us from a lot of other teams. Trading Deng + Taj for an offensive upgrade (and defensive downgrade) at small forward makes our team worse. <br /><br />Yes, we have a "legit superstar" in Melo (in quotes because I think it can be argued that he's not in the very highest level of superstars) ... but we lose part of what makes the Bulls a contender: depth. <br /><br />With Melo, our big 3 (Rose, Melo & Boozer) is not as good as Miami, and we don't have part of what gives us a chance: a much stronger second unit.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />And that's just talking about Deng + Taj ... don't get me started on how much I would hate the deal if we include NOAH!! I violently disagree with trading Noah for Melo, and might consider if I want to be a fan of this team/organization ...2jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00652176496951098823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8994777194471059185.post-59758484892053626172010-09-09T13:52:41.606-05:002010-09-09T13:52:41.606-05:00great post. as a fellow melo lover, i have always...great post. as a fellow melo lover, i have always wanted to see him a bulls uni. its tough to tell what melo would do on this team because you have no idea what this "new" team will perform like. that said if melo just costs the bulls deng, taj and a #1, pull the triggerPetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11548448745228593188noreply@blogger.com